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“We are not limited by money, but rather by the poverty of our own dreams.” Doug Wead

Watch this interview on YouTube here.

On this episode you will learn:

✔︎ Why it’s important that we ask others for help with our goals.
✔︎ How Andrea met the advisor to 2 American Presidents, and how he helped her to create Character and Leadership programs for the K-12 School Market.
✔︎ A Look back at an interview with Andrea and Doug in 2014 on the Greatest US Presidents.
✔︎ A Formula for Leadership that Doug noticed with many US Presidents involving a Mamma’s Boy and an Absent Father.

Welcome back to the Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast for EPISODE #187 with a release of one of our earlier interviews that we released long before we launched this podcast from March, 2014 in memory of my mentor, Presidential Historian, and advisor to two American Presidents, Doug Wead[i], who passed away unexpectedly on Friday December 10th.[ii]

You can listen to the back story of how I met Doug, and his impact on the work we’ve been doing in the field of education on this podcast, since the knowledge and ideas he shared with me back then, are relevant for us today.

REMEMBER: This is one of my earlier interviews, and the sound quality is not the same as it is today with advancements in technology and experience.

I do hope you enjoy this interview on “The Greatest or Best US Presidents” where I asked him the following questions:

  1. Who was the greatest of all US Presidents?
  2. Which Presidents showed great leadership?
  3. Can you explain this formula for leadership that you discovered studying our past Presidents? (A mama’s boy with an absent Father)?
  4. Will we ever see a female President?
  5. How is Barack Obama doing as a President? He was the US President at the time of this interview (March, 2014).
  6. How is President Obama doing as a Father?
  7. What was President Gerald Ford like as a person, since Doug knew him personally?
  8. Final Thoughts of how Doug’s career led him to the Whitehouse.

What a man! Doug had an incredible career working in the Whitehouse, inspiring many around the world, and it all began with his vision to feed people who were starving to death in Cambodia. In 1970 he co-founded the Charity Awards and was a part of the founding of Mercy Corps which has distributed $2 billion of food and medicine around the world and my hope is that he has inspired you in some way to take action with your goals, whatever they might be.

With that, we say goodbye, and I’ve got to say, this is one connection that I am grateful I wasn’t too afraid to reach out to ask for help.


Doug Wead is a New York Times bestselling author and former adviser to two American Presidents. He served as special assistant to the president in the George H.W. Bush White House.

Mr. Wead’s books are known for their primary sources. He has interviewed six American presidents, seven first ladies, 19 presidential children and twelve presidential siblings.

In 1970 he co-founded the Charity Awards and was a part of the founding of Mercy Corps which has distributed $2 billion of food and medicine around the world.



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